tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502323779636210957.post8661175651753534051..comments2023-09-30T10:13:32.255+01:00Comments on Chatnoir: A Mumbaikar in Melbourne: Kallat in Chicago: Or you just can't escape India anywhereglobalbabblehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03943342464554767429noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502323779636210957.post-88116595365114146512010-11-14T05:11:12.140+00:002010-11-14T05:11:12.140+00:00good post. good art. great idea. Thank you for bri...good post. good art. great idea. Thank you for bringing good art from Chicaago to aglobal reader.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502323779636210957.post-51717954276383229612010-10-09T10:22:32.352+01:002010-10-09T10:22:32.352+01:00Hey Brucex,
No, I haven't seen Public Notice...Hey Brucex, <br /><br />No, I haven't seen Public Notice 1. But did see Public Notice 2, which I had really liked. I agree, he is a really good artist. <br /><br />Cglobalbabblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03943342464554767429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502323779636210957.post-28423584487493754292010-10-08T19:45:08.534+01:002010-10-08T19:45:08.534+01:00Hey Just to add, I like what you say 'Step-by-...Hey Just to add, I like what you say 'Step-by-step kallat conquers the world'... I live in London and I can tell you by the growing buzz around this guy, he is a very intelligent artist and should prove you right.brucexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502323779636210957.post-47585640527219781282010-10-08T19:41:18.818+01:002010-10-08T19:41:18.818+01:00I wonder if anyone has seen Jitish Kallats Public ...I wonder if anyone has seen Jitish Kallats Public Notice which he made years ago, 10 years ago I think. I saw his 'Public Noitce 2' in London and that is a piece you might like to write about. What is TOI Crest, Will look it up...<br /><br />'Public Notice 3' is the kind of work that will grow in relevance over the years. It is a HUGELY relevant piece made a timely moment...brucexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502323779636210957.post-48341293509768377582010-10-05T10:19:30.662+01:002010-10-05T10:19:30.662+01:00And thank you for making me aware of Kallat and Pu...And thank you for making me aware of Kallat and Public Notice 3. I don't usually like this sort of thing, but this display is so simple and so full of meaning I think Jitish Kallat would be a great person to know- such humor and insight. <br /><br />I believe this is your first trip to America isn't it? If so, welcome, and I hope our goddess Columbia extends her love and benevolence to you. :)Yet Another Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502323779636210957.post-84756923477972651192010-10-05T10:06:56.030+01:002010-10-05T10:06:56.030+01:00Yes, our pledge is of a different nature. And on r...Yes, our pledge is of a different nature. And on reflection, better than the American one. Thanks for pointing that out!globalbabblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03943342464554767429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502323779636210957.post-61803127568236732322010-10-05T09:44:30.353+01:002010-10-05T09:44:30.353+01:00I wasn't aware India had a pledge, so I looked...I wasn't aware India had a pledge, so I looked it up and lo, it was written by Vivekananda. It is a beautiful pledge, much different in nature and origin than the American pledge.<br /><br />The American pledge isn't really controversial, except for the "one nation under God" part these days. Most Americans whose hearts swell with the reciting of the pledge at sporting events and whose eyes tear upon hearing 'God Bless America' completely miss the deep irony of the whole business. Theses same romantics who honor the fallen warriors who fought under this banner and creed against communism and fascism are singing praises to the same ideologies! <br /><br />The purpose of our pledge was to train the young to love the idea of nation above all else, to respond as Prussian soldiers did to whistles that compelled them to rush into withering lines of fire- our educational system was literally known as the "Prussian Military System" (aka "public education"). At the time all this was happening new immigrants to New York City revolted against the change in education because they had taken the trouble to leave their homes to escape a feudalistic past; they weren't pleased to find themselves in a developing new form of feudalism. There were school riots around the turn of the 20th century over this madness. The immigrants wanted their children educated in knowledge, not nationalist propoganda and obedience to authority. <br /><br />America's education decline began with the coming in of the pledge, and the tactic has been very successful. We have become mostly a nation of idiots (so unaware of our past), profoundly reflected in our television and movie media and I hope India is spared this as you lose the "ing". <br /><br />The writers of our constitution would not have thought of pledging allegiance to a piece of cloth. Their love was for the land and the people, not for the idea of nation, just as is reflected in India's pledge. In talking to new immigrants to our country I am often struck with how much more embued with our founder's philosphies they are than the typical American now is.Yet Another Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502323779636210957.post-40948214968278209652010-10-05T09:07:22.307+01:002010-10-05T09:07:22.307+01:00Hi Yet-Another-Anonymous,
Yes, I thought the ins...Hi Yet-Another-Anonymous, <br /><br />Yes, I thought the installation was full of clever irony, like most of Kallat's works that I have seen. It combined sharp contrasts to make a point. <br /><br />Though I must admit that I had no clue that the Pledge of Allegience was controvertial. We have it in India too. I never thought that my pledging of allegience to my country in any way came in the way of speaking the truth or criticising it.globalbabblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03943342464554767429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502323779636210957.post-11104887337303534532010-10-05T07:14:30.120+01:002010-10-05T07:14:30.120+01:00This installation is so appropriate and satirical....This installation is so appropriate and satirical. Your combining the Sousa march with it completes the vision.<br /><br />The first point of interest for me is the magical number of 108 years between the attacks. <br /><br />Then, given the spirit of Vivekananda's speech at a time when the idea of militant nationalism was first being heavily promoted in the west I have to think this Kallat is on to something with this display. <br /><br />The Pledge was written in 1892, the speech came in 1893, and the march was written in 1896. <br /><br />The Pledge and march are artifacts of a waxing desire in America to create a national socialist society, a military and industrial army that would, upon command signaled by a bell or whistle, gather around the national lingam and salute the name tag atop. <br /><br />These ideas blossomed into eugenics laws in America that were used as the racial hygiene model for that other famous national socialist nation whose name is now so unfashionable, while leading to 600,000 forced sterilizations of the "unfit" in America that only ended in the early '70's. <br /><br />And of course there are those who claim that America's national ambitions played some part into provoking the attack on Sept. 11, from whatever quarter it came. <br /><br />So one wonders if Vivekananda had glimpsed the future of bigotry and fanatism and just how aware Kallat is of all that has transpired between the two dates concerning America's role in promoting.... I won't use the most appropriate word because it's on the list. <br /><br />I think this is a great display!Yet Another Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com